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mcooch Says, on 10-21-2009 at 05:17:51     

That sucks @$$! Never underestimate the power of a better marketing system, and never let your customer relationships drift.

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Shane Says, on 10-21-2009 at 13:31:49     

Josh,
You bring up a lot of great points here. I can’t blame you for ranting and I agree with your conclusions regarding both Dell and customer relationships. I have also heard of this happening first hand and one thing I learned was the customer soon realized that with Dell things were much different, in fact, they were not happy at all. But a huge marketing machine is all it takes to disrupt our business.

In competitive terms they would be an external threat. I say this: do better. We have to look at the competition and see what they do well and then do even better. I think differentiating based on service is a great place to be but as you point out, the customer could be in that unhappy spot at the right moment. We can foster great relationships and one way to do that is to do something compelling for those unhappy clients…i mean do something really memorable… That makes them say “wow” that was really amazing. If you do it at the right time they will still be a client. Lastly…..there are some clients that will never be happy even if you try and try….let Dell have them ;-)

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Rosewood Says, on 10-21-2009 at 16:08:01     

Get ready for this to happen more and more as other companies move into the managed services arena. There is just too much money sitting out there for companies (like Telcom companies) to walk away from.

Realize that you can just let a bad customer go but try harder to keep connected to your people.

Although y’all should be VERY embarrassed.

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Josh Says, on 10-22-2009 at 00:36:11     

I agree with you completely Shane, thanks for adding your two cents and for giving me an OK to rant.

I couldn’t agree more with giving a “not happy right now” a wow experience. I would love to know what you do for your customers in these situations to give them that wow experience if you are willing to share…

Rosewood, I agree that this will be a bigger and bigger problem as more of the big players get their managed services off the ground. I guess my major realization is that every customer is unhappy for some reason at some point. Most good customers never get so unhappy they go out and shop the competition. But if Dell is there right in their face when the go through a rough spot you will lose more and more customers that you are use to keeping on your roster without an increased commitment to customer experience.

And yes, i am ashamed. … . . .

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Shane Says, on 10-22-2009 at 15:38:00     

Josh – One note of good news: I bet if you track this customer for the next 6 – 12 months you will find that they in fact do not get the personalized service your company offers and as more and more large players get into this space it will become even more evident that the large players focus is purely on profit – and not on service. Profit as it turns out is a reward for exceptional service.

As for an experience – I would say it’s different for each customer – for example…if a customer is having a difficult time with finances…I would call up one month out of the blue and say “hey, you get a 50% discount this month.” This is more than just money. The customer realizes you were in tune enough to recognize their business situation and responded first. I mean…think about it…if you got your car payment next month and it said “$0.00 due” wouldn’t you call them and wonder why? Then if they said, “hey, it’s just our way giving you a break this month.”….you would literally be floored and you would most likely buy again.

Not all experiences have to be monetary. The point is to do something they are not expecting and fills an unmet business need. Another example…with your web services business do something for a customer out of the blue that drives some traffic to their site…and let them know later. More business for them…means more for you as well.

It works and there are so many ways to provide an experience. I guarantee this won’t be happening with the big players.

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mmoon Says, on 10-22-2009 at 15:58:03     

Josh – That is horrible, it sucks that you had to experience this first had. This is why playing in the channel has so much value for our partners.

I work for Ingram Micro Seismic, which is Ingram Micro’s Managed Services division. We are ranked Fortune 67, a $36 Billion organization, yet most people outside of IT do not even know who we are and what we do. Our main value proposition is enabling our partners with resources and support to help build and expand on their business without having to worry about any direct competition.

I encourage you and any other MSP’s & VAR’s offering services today to take a look at all the tremendous resources Ingram Micro can provide. We would be more than happy to help.

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Gerson Says, on 10-26-2009 at 03:44:23     

Not to oversimplify – but the exposure was on not providing the hardware – we aim to provide all of our clients needs for hardware and software and ship out PCs ready to login – already joined to the network. You have to do the things that Dell can’t.

You can’t let clients go elsewhere for any tech needs not even for copiers, Internet service or phone systems – all these outside tech vendors have or will have an msp offering at some point if they don’t already

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Josh Says, on 10-30-2009 at 02:11:35     

Shane great ideas, thanks for sharing them. I like the idea of unpredictably doing something great that lets them know you are in tune with their business.

Gerson, I completely agree with you. It will become more and more important for an MSP to aggregate all services an SMB could need as everyone and their brother has an MSP offering these days.

Mmoon, I have heard great things about the Ingram Micro program and even worked with you all through LPI as you were getting your NOC services off the ground. Thank you for chiming into the conversation. Perhaps you would want to do a guest post to run through your services and benefits for our readers? if so shoot me an email.

For those of you who have not seen the Ingram Micro Seismic program you can check them out http://www.ingrammicro.com/ext/0,,21592_19722_22480,00.html

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